Lucid dreaming and the astral plane. Differences between a lucid dream (OS) and an astral projection (AP) How to distinguish an astral from a lucid dream

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Was the water clean? Yes, she was clean. Was the water wet? - Wet it, apparently, was not - it was not water. The fundamental difference between Astral and sleep is the same as between a wall and a mirror. For example, if you go through a wall, put your hand on the floor - this is not dangerous, but entering the mirror ... is fraught with ambiguous cases. But neither the wall nor the mirror are mirrors or walls - they are not objects. Astral is made of dreams, like pork fat. Breathe water. Breathing, dreams are real, even if you dream them just in a random dream. Forget this word. Lies can only be found in religious books, in dreams you will not find anything ... except reality. You look at your dream and say to yourself - "is it Astral or is it not Astral?" This is not Astral, but not because your dream is an illusion, but because Astral is just a philosophical category, a construction of reasoning, but what is in front of you is a manifestation of existence, and between these two there is an abyss of differences. Because philosophical judgments are alive like pharaohs in coffins.
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It doesn't matter where to be aware, in a dream or not in a dream - it is difficult to be aware at all. Because the arrangement of life has saved us from this need. If you are aware from one corner of a five-story house to another corner of it, then stop being aware by ordering yourself not to be aware, but as you walk past this house, be aware in the ultimate way. Skip this house if you are not going to be aware near its walls. And then this thing will become your ability to realize on a rotational basis, i.e. short, but intense. You, if you have time for this, will delve into the tension of this time (the time while you are walking along the wall) and feel then it is possible that it in itself surpasses what can be achieved through it - dreams. After all, dreams are not when you take off your clothes, they are not because the light is turned off.

Many people see the real world from the Astral... it would be better if one saw it many times, because with the umpteenth attempt, a lot of inconsistencies are found. What is usually considered the criteria of the Astral, like the spectacle of one's own body, the atmosphere of the room in which one sleeps, etc. insufficient in terms of details. These details always indicate that although the dream has the power to convince the sleeper that he sees everyday reality, nevertheless, he does not see it. I myself and another person have been trying to find the exact reflection for many years and there have been many cases when, as it seemed, it almost succeeded. Personally, it seemed to me that this happened in relation to certain fragments of reality, but in fact all this was good except for clattering about some things that were as amazing as they were useless - there was not a single case of seeing everyday reality from the Astral. Of course, you can always hope that someone succeeded, people are different. Both of us, at first, did so, especially since such a possibility is postulated in special literature, written evidence is given. We have been inventing new explanations for our failures for a long time, these explanations can be assumed for a very long time, but a person’s life is not endless - it’s only believers who can endlessly believe in a shepherd or a book, and we needed proof, and then we did what none of those who adhere to theories about the Astral will praise, because I take away from them a rather attractive, wonderful faith, replacing it ... even replacing it with nothing. It is impossible to take away from the believer his god and from the occultist, the old or whatever new his Astral. Faith is a reliable means of imprisoning people in surrendering their dear ideas, religious, scientific, it doesn't matter. Nobody wants to give up ideas, favorite ideas, and this is also unpleasant for me, but reality is not bad, it does not need us to decorate it with our hopes. If you cannot learn the basics of programming in half a year and you are led to believe that it takes several successive lifetimes or that it requires training under the guidance of an expert, then this is an ancient lie in its newness, and this is what you will be told about the science of seeing everyday time from the Astral. No one doubts electricity, it is openly irreversible. Programming is available, as are electronics and lucid dreaming. Every subject is available for study, it only needs to be available in nature, otherwise an expert is required, many lives are required, the favor of mystical forces is required. But will we be so gullible? Nobody wants to see hallucinations, they don't want to see what is not there. On the contrary, I want to see prophecy and reality. The reason for this ridiculous nonsense is that the concepts of "dreams" and "hallucinations" have been, for some time now, so to speak, crap on some groups of people. Today it is not commendable at all, to have hallucinations. To see what is not, today is not considered an achievement. Every mystical-minded individual wishes to enter the Astral, but which of them is inspired by the ability not to know or temporarily forget. All our lives we learn something, and how not to know, no one has learned that. We know why you need to expand your horizons - we don’t know why narrow it down. Also, we all know, or at least someone said it, why dreams are needed. And the more we know about dreams, the less we want them. We don't need dreams. Glitches are also not needed ... we know. And what we know about glitches does not do honor to their owner, and therefore we do not need glitches either. The astral, therefore, is a social phenomenon - it is a response to our ideas about the value of things and especially, about the non-value of certain things.

max,
why in your posts you substitute concepts and use methods of hidden manipulations?
As an example (and it's not the only one):
in many sentences, instead of “we know”, it would be more logical to write at least “I know”. Because some "we" don't agree. In order to destroy the cunning manipulating construction of the sentence, I do not agree not with the fact that I don’t know or know, but with the fact that this is only your opinion and writing that this “we know” is incorrect in essence the information presented to which this cunning "we know".

Essentially the topic:
1. There is a lucid dream.
2. Astral - yes.
3. OS and Astral are different phenomena.

A little more on p3.
OS - this is what you, realizing that in a dream, invented yourself, a consequence of imagination.
The Astral is one of the really existing planes. The astral plane is real, certainly different from the physical plane, but actions in the physical plane are reflected in the astral and vice versa.
Therefore, Max, you unreasonably write: “it would be better if one saw it many times, because with the umpteenth attempt, a lot of inconsistencies are found.”. And how did you want? That's exactly how it should be. I will say even more, even in the physical world there will be a lot of inconsistencies looking at one place, for example, in winter and summer. Time is a topic for another discussion.
“Astral, therefore, is a social phenomenon” - and the electricity that you mentioned, in such a context, is not social phenomenon? Here again, the substitution of concepts, tk. the definition of astral is narrowly indicated, although the “social concept” of the astral is the hundredth point. I am sure that at one time they also considered “social glitches” a person who reported that with the help of electricity it is possible to communicate with a person through a miracle tube (telephone) from the opposite hemisphere of the Earth.

Maybe the Astral will sooner or later open up to the whole society, but judging by the other chosen path for the development of mankind - not soon. Thanks to Einstein, who, sorry, a Jew, fooled many. No wonder his most common image is showing his tongue.

An experienced astral traveler can go into the apartments of many of his friends during the day and then tell what they were doing at that moment, without mistakes.

Here, dear Max, try to fantasize and catch such “glitches”, and then we will continue to argue what is the OS, what is the “Filis social astral”, does it exist, and what is their difference ...
Realizing in advance that you want “evidence”, this is immediately evident from your posts, I’ll point out, don’t be a “high priest”, and don’t stone someone who doesn’t want to prove, but doesn’t mean he can’t, don’t arrange clowning. The Astral has its own laws ... And so, Google to the rescue, there are a lot of such evidence.

So much time has passed and I'm reading this. Below is a sea of ​​unread text.
I wrote a lot, but I decided to erase everything. this thought was endless, which is crazy
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It is impossible to know in advance what a dream will do to a person. I once thought I knew why I needed to dream. I had vain plans for this. They weren't very imaginative also because they weren't mine, but I just shared them with many before me and after me, I think they will remain the same. But it didn't really matter. We must draw our desires from a source that is hardly able to justify anyone's dreams. A dream does not fulfill dreams, but gives them to those who do not have them. My problem was that I had them. And the more I persisted on my own, the more time and effort was wasted. And only when I began to lose, little by little, my book knowledge, and with them my goals, when I began to understand that knowledge is an obstacle, I began to love him without knowing, not wanting to get anything from him. But that is why I began to discover a secret, a strange one, about dreams. Just as water masses do not reflect land, dreams should not be reflections. They are nothing but themselves. Stones can roll down the mountain not only when you push them, but you can also push a stone down the mountain, and dreams are not yours, there is nothing for it. Why do some people think that the stars in the sky move in order to predict Petrov's or Sidorov's fate? Does astrology apply to Martians? In what aspects will Saturn be in the horoscope of the chicken if its owner decides to cook stew from the chicken? Dreams prophesy no more than the stars, no more than a traffic light. A traffic light can become your oracle, especially at the moment when you try to cross the intersection under a red light. All things and dreams speak to us, but they can say even more if they dare to listen. Initially, things have no qualities. Whatever they have, we give them. For example a form. They manifest themselves exactly as they are allowed to. As if an engineer is loaded with paperwork, he will turn into an official, things around us only have time to process monotonous requests. Leave them to yourself and they will show you masterpieces.

Thanks for the detailed answer! I'm actually afraid of pure astral. Whatever it is, I'm completely unprepared for it. I go out into the OS or the impure astral plane without any negative thoughts, without the desire to do something bad there. I'm not ready for it because I think I'm too naive there. Those people seemed kind to me, they listened to me attentively, like they were my mother, brother, sister. I knew that it was them and for some reason I was a little embarrassed that they were not exactly alike. They are all much younger. But, as it were, they are all the same. Moreover, I vaguely remember their faces. I asked my sister to touch the body and she helped me so that my spirit could find it. But I didn’t ask for a real sister, but the one that was there ... in the OS. And in general, I always sleep with a night light. I'm afraid in complete darkness .... I have a question like this. On the one hand, I'm afraid, but when I go out there, it's not scary. There is no one there to scare me. Why can this be so?

If you think it's too early for now. Strangers are always betrayed by their eyes, no matter what the creature looks like, their eyes ... some kind of alien or something, not similar to human ones. It just needs to be noticed and you will immediately see who is in front of you.

I’ll tell you my case: I “rolled out” of the body into the astral plane, but I couldn’t stay in it and fell into the OS, I went into my parents’ room, they were sitting talking, smiling, but their eyes were always looking at me and very carefully and studyingly followed. I realized this as soon as I woke up. But since I didn’t notice this, I proved to the “pseudo-parents” that look, I’m in the OS, I’m above the ceiling ... There’s no point in being afraid of them if you understand that you are always stronger than everyone else, a person is like a fish in water there, just few people understand it. There are other layers of the Astral, where a person is like a mosquito for others, but it is very, very difficult to get there. So many years of practice are needed that today's human life is not enough.

If you mean the transition itself, which is accompanied by fear, then this is normal. With each exit, the very edge of the transition will be invisible, as well as fear. This is a kind of self-defense of our body, so that once again it does not "climb out". And the fact that the OS is not scary is also normal. During the transition to the Astral, I feel simply wild horror, accompanied by thundering and frightening sounds. In fact, a person often goes to the Astral, more often in the OS, he already knows everything there. Children under 5 years old feel good "there", they even see the world as it is, without stereotypes imposed by parents and seeing the world in their own way. And you have also been many times in the OS and Astral, your dream body knows how to move, fly, return, etc. But why you know all this, but do not remember this is a separate topic for discussion. There is no time to describe everything, my achievements, thoughts and conclusions.

Astral is not logical. In my opinion, everything happens in our head and not in the outside world or measurement. The brain is a computer or something like that, only cooler. And at a certain moment we started falling asleep, we learned to deceive it with the help of techniques. we need to rest and whether we want it or not, the brain turns off the body (sleep paralysis) and starts a dream on the topic that we need for the psyche and for the body (physiology). But it is precisely at the time of loading the scenario (sleep phase), with the help of technology, that we set it ourselves, clinging to the consciousness, we begin to see, feel and understand what we want - (astral, ourselves in bed, flying to the moon, in the end, a naked female) - in short, to order. But as I understand it, not one advanced practitioner has lingered in this state for more than 5-10 minutes in reality, throws everyone out, or falls asleep. That is, the download ends, you can’t fool the brain. It's my personal opinion. All for now.

And how do you explain the physical influence on the world through the Astral? During sleep, only the body rests, it needs to rest, but in a dream it could work in a different mode and several times stronger. The fact that in today's time it is difficult to achieve a long stay is explained simply: you are ready to give up your family, city, modern world, live alone, engage in spiritual practices, meditation, eat proper diet, get food yourself and live like this for 20 years? I think not, like many will not give up the benefits of modernity, and all this distracts from spiritual growth.

Tanya
much that is answered to your post, sorry, nonsense.
Look at my answer to Max "y, it's up the thread (Anonymous January 07, 2014).
Especially the last lines. Thanks!

This is where everyone is being clever...) and is there at least one of you real practitioners of astral exits...? I definitely advise everyone to start with a trilogy of books by Robert Monroe! Then there will be fewer questions ...! I did not start with him, but then when I read it, everything fell into place, there was a clear understanding of the places of interruption of practitioners and mine in particular!

Influence on the world? only if you apply the information that a person has perceived in his entire past life (heard, smelled, touched, seen, studied), presumably Mendeleev created the table precisely in the phase based on his knowledge. Find the keys if he saw them out of the corner of his eye. I don't know of any other influence. If there is such a thing, please bring it to the point.

no, I'm talking about a specific physical influence on the world: move an object, break glass, up to being "visible" to awake people, those who are out of phase. If you read Castaneda - D. Juan, or rather his energy body, could be completely visible to people, as he said, the most difficult thing is to project eyes, very few can do this.

Read Robert A. Monroe, he just has books about traveling in the Astral, he also created psychoactive programs with Hemi-Sync sounds, I cite them on this site as an example, I listened to it myself.

And, please, indicate the name, so it's easier for me to communicate with you.

Yes! And the author! No need to intimidate people with mirrors, it's all nonsense... I went in and had an amazing experience...! After all, someone correctly noted here that a mirror in the astral world is only your projection of the mind, unless of course we are talking about the first ring of subtle existence...

Hello.I.have.a.question.for.you.there.a.lot.of.comments.and.perhaps.they.have.my.answer.but.unfortunately.there.is.no.time.for.this. so.you.say.that.the.astral.is.a.way.out.of.your.body.?! of.your.body!In.briefly.it.describes.that.there.are.a.several.techniques.that.will.help.to.do.this.for.the.first.few.seconds.after.waking up. to.stand.up.with.the.thought.or.to.roll over, and.if.you.succeeded.and.you.feel.everything.real.and.materially.then.this.is.a.way out from.their.body,many.advise.to.look.at.themselves.in.a.mirror.or.travel! I.was.interested.out.of.the.body.and.I.wanted.to.try.it.but.not.especially.after.your.article!Please.answer.me!!

Guys, all good time sktok. Very interesting discussion. What do you think of Stephen LaBerge's book Lucid Dreaming?
And another question, did someone try to read in a dream (astral), find out unknown information, for example, study foreign language? I can’t read, either I don’t find books, or some kind of gibberish is written, and the words on the page change in real time. And the words are unreadable.
Has anyone talked to the entities, realizing that these are the inhabitants there?

Astral has a spectrum of colors. Usually these are colored clouds of purple-green tones. In it one can see with closed eyes and move oneself with the power of thought. In a dream, they often walk or fly, but do not freeze in place until the next command, and the movement in the astral plane is straightforward, like a camera zoom. There is also a dense dream turning into the astral. There are attacks in reality and meetings with the gods. A lot of things happen. But the bottom line is that in a dream it happens and the light bulbs work. By the way, the higher astral can be initially two-dimensional, which speaks of a model of the universe.

What should I do? When I realize in a dream that I am in a dream, that is, the beginning of the OS, the dream immediately becomes uncontrollable and the dream itself kills me in a matter of minutes.
I dreamed that I was walking around my old school, on the ground floor. It dawned on me when I looked at my hand and saw a pinkish glow, like from a candle flame. I was delighted and went along the first floor along the corridor. Suddenly, blue water begins to arrive from nowhere, and interior items made of wood, chairs of various shapes, tables and toys appear around me, which naturally floated on the surface and prevented me from surfacing. For some time, I was seized by panic and the school!exploded!, I didn’t even understand how, but I was already looking at it from the side of the street. After a moment, I woke up. The second time they simply took me by the hands that were spreading in space and simply threw me out of sleep, as soon as I again became aware of the dream, I don’t know who it was either.
What does this mean and how can I stay in a dream?

Hello, I read your comments and think that all this is nonsense. I personally think that during sleep a person cannot get into the astral plane. Lucid dreams are just a projection of the human brain. And not a trip to the astral plane. It's all about the BRAIN. Bradley Thompson, it clearly says that the OS is not an exit from the body. The dream world is created by your subconscious. AND YOU DO NOT LEAVE YOUR BODY! Do not be afraid of your dreams, this is only your imagination, your fantasy.
I won't panic, these are just alarmist websites.

hello Svyat. please help me understand the classification of a dream - I can’t understand where I was - in the subconscious or in the astral in my apartment. Among the discussions of "astro-pilots" or astral pilgrims, there is an opinion that in the astral plane, that is, going out into the other world (nav), in your house you can observe old furniture that used to be in real life, but which is no longer there, the sizes of the rooms are different and other differences-additions.
Please explain, can this be the case with a real exit to the other world-nav-astral - you observe furniture in your apartment that has long been gone in real life, changed dimensions (a slightly different layout, a large area, etc.). in the astral plane - or such differences in the situation in the apartment testify to the delirium of the subconscious-dream and nothing more. With a real exit to the Nav-other world - all objects retain their position and quantity as strictly as they are now in real life, are the dimensions of the apartment and the layout the same strictly as in real life? Or to realize yourself in a dream in your apartment stuffed with other old furniture means that it's just in your subconsciousness that you are in your own - conscious behavior in a caledoscopic dream? Please clarify this question, your experience is needed, since in different groups of "astro-pilots" all this is interpreted differently - mixed up - how many people have so many opinions, and the unknown torments me, since a bad event happened there in this dream - I fornicated with someone else wife, now my conscience is out of place and the unknown torments me and I can’t answer myself - I was in the subconscious or in the Navi-other world-astral in the second. I didn’t see my obvious-material body lying there. The event took place in my apartment in a dream only the sizes and objects differed from the real ones. Immediately after the end of the dream, I woke up in the middle of the night from anxiety and anxiety - from the feeling that I had sinned with a real person (neighbor) and at the same time as I woke up from this dream - I heard her voice behind the wall - she too I woke up in the middle of a dream and cursed - I heard it in reality in the middle of the night - the silence was broken by the voice of a female curse. I didn’t ask her about this dream in real life because I didn’t communicate with her and didn’t get to know her, now she hala from this house, but in any case, I wouldn’t ask about it - in the case of a fucked up what it really was, I don’t know how to deal with this. Please help me figure it out.

Hey!
I'm trying to figure out what's going on in my experience. I hope you have some idea or hint about this. Please tell me what to do next, after I realized that this is a dream. I know that I am in a dream, I am me, and this is my dream. You can, of course, as I understand it, start observing, you can start a conversation or mentally communicate with the surrounding entities, if any. Well, of course, you can start having fun on your order (sex with someone, especially with a specific appearance of someone or other desired desires), but this does not lead to the goal of entering the Navi body. Now it is not clear yet some details become. What to do next? Should I strive somewhere or just stand and watch?

You can come up with a name for the appeal yourself;)

By the way, thanks for the quick response, I didn't expect that.

Yes, but you didn't seem to ask.
Of course, the routine daily life is addictive, exhausting, and this work (from the word slavery) is very distracting. And who especially
"lucky" to get married, get married, and even have children before the age of 40, I think there will be no time for such developments. It is also desirable to eat right, give up meat, for example, according to your own understanding, and not because you heard that you need to become a vegetarian, and from tomorrow do not eat meat, and then think how difficult it is.
Of course, I am smiling and very sad about the situation in the minds of Russian and Russian-speaking citizens and individuals. The social pressure is very high and kind of ugly (ugly). General Standard: Kindergarten, school, university, work, pension, death. And this is all for some kind of all 60-70 years. And no one got any experience, An ideally working model, fruit harvesters and its creators can rejoice to the fullest.
Waking up in a dream and understanding that this is a dream is much easier than waking up in this life, which is imposed on us by ideology and false history.
If you asked me how it turned out to realize a dream in a dream within the framework of this forum for new readers, I can advise you to listen to Denis Borisov about controlled dreams (yes, this jock talks about such things, but he usually talks like for those who are not particularly bending). My personal story is different how I did it and how long ago, very long.
It's strange that you wrote that you can't get rid of it. Everything is very simple, I somehow got bored of setting a sleep program, so I just become a simple observer of the confusion that visits me at night, that's all, and over time, you can be so exhausted during the day as a slave that you can not remember at all in the morning what dreamed. You can still stop scrolling, remembering or remembering your dreams, and in this way you can again return to the ranks of modern biorobots.
It was nice to meet and chat

Good evening, thanks for the answer, but my concept is such that I would like to establish financial well-being in order to devote myself completely to practices, spiritual development. not be distracted by everyday problems.

Hey! and thank you for your interesting question. Look, "happiness", "financial well-being", "everything is good to be" - these are such lengthy and purely personal terms that it is better not to use them anywhere, especially in desires. Let's say financial well-being is a certain amount of money you receive for a great startup that grows every day. Fine! Now what I know:
1. Usually, the information that can be obtained in the OS is either useless, tk. it is not clear from whom it was received or is applicable only in the OS, and not in wakefulness.
2. My friends have been looking for Akashic chronicles in the OS for 4 years already and still have not achieved anything.
3. Yes prophetic dreams, but it's not the OS, it's more your own intuition. There may be ideas there, the question is whether you remember a prophetic dream.
3. Astral - I know cases when information in the astral was received and used. But there is more about loved ones, illnesses, etc. About how to become "financially independent" (also, by the way, an inadequate expression, you can go to live in the forest, leave everyone and everything and become financially independent) I have never heard of giving information. I think even if you get it, it will not work.

Bottom line, it's unlikely that anything adequate will come of it. My advice to you is something else. There is You and there is the World around, you set the world that is around you now. You set the RIGHT Desire, take steps towards it, time passes and the desire comes to you, You must see it. I hope you understand what is the right desire? what are steps? and how to see it?
You have already, in fact, taken the first steps - you wrote a question in this post. The only thing you need is a specific, well-thought-out goal! I want to receive $100 a day - good, I don't want to depend on anyone financially - bad.

Thank you for the answer, I understand everything, I will try to work on myself. If questions arise, can I contact you? !!!

of course you can, I’ll help you if I can)) In fact, how it will turn out what you have planned, on the contrary, inspiration appears, and not sadness) But even here you can’t rejoice, but just accept it as if it’s all the norm, it should be. You start to rejoice, tell everyone how cool everything is and it just turns out, everything will be lost.

Good day, please tell me with the help of audio programs like Hemi-sink, can I start practicing astral travel? Or where to start?

Hi! can you.
I started the practice of entering the astral plane with them. I read Robert Monroe in the evenings, then meditation with Hemi-sink and deep sleep. After about six months, vibrations began, they are hard to overcome, then you abruptly fly into the astral plane.
I advise you to try different tracks with hemi-sync, that's what you like and use. If you don’t like something, you feel that you are not comfortable, take the next one. For example, in the Development of DNA levels, I chose tracks without a voice and listened to them in meditation, it was so comfortable.
As for the quality of the tracks, I wrote an article that .mp3 should not be listened to meditation, only .flac or .wav.

question: my mother died 5 years ago and I constantly dream. Our apartment is dreaming, in a dream I realize that she is not alive, but it feels like she left me for a while, and now she has returned, I dream of life, I try to talk to her, but she is always silent, and when I tell her that she died leaving. What's this?

Hello Alex! All judgments are purely from my experience: they show interest not only in a dream, but also in life. In a dream, we simply see or notice them. The best way for me to determine the essence or illusion is the eyes, they are different, inhuman, like black coals. It was once I just realized that it was an entity, a black spot on the ceiling.
You can ask him who he is, but the entity can lie. You can determine the behavior of an illusion, it, like a robot, performs a certain task, if it is
How do you see them? what eyes? How do you define an entity or not?

It's clear! No, I didn’t move, it’s just that now you know, this is knowledge. You, one might say, the first on my site, are an obvious person, about whom I wrote earlier in the comments, you first need to try, and then what to do). There are even "teachers" who help a person to enter the OS, Astral, and then do what you want. And what's the point of it if a person can't do anything? Take a child who has just learned to walk, let him enter society, what will happen to him? Unprepared people with a weak psyche can go crazy. The most interesting thing is that you can’t get rid of this, it’s for life, you have to put up with it. Maybe in the future the OSes will disappear, but in fact you will not remember them, you will only wake up broken, tired.

The thing is, I'm the same. I just started with Astral and only then began to get the OS. Everything was normal, but a year later creatures with black eyes began to appear in the form of relatives. Well, a dream, something with relatives, something with relatives, someone runs after me, and my legs get stuck, you can barely move (turn around, there is no one there, it’s checked). Everything is designed for emotions, mainly fear, it is easy to evoke it in a modern person, and this is energy, "food" for them.

The first thing I did. I began to take care of myself, and this is deep meditation, complete calmness, not external, but internal. You can scream, cry, smile, but be completely calm inside. Try to put it into practice in life, not to react to any situation, but to know everything as it should be, as if you knew about it. It's very hard, but possible. Accordingly, there is less TV, news, social media feeds - everything that distracts from contemplation and makes you worry.

The second is the accumulation of internal energy. On the main page you can find a post on how to do it. There is also a breathing exercise somewhere on the site, but it is dangerous, you need to be more careful with it.

Thirdly, it is necessary to have a clear intention, desire, without leftists "what if it doesn't work out." All these three things are interconnected and calmly applicable in life, you can practice.

This, for starters, will be enough to calmly resist the entities without resorting to special attacks. At one time I joined a clan in a dream, there was a nickname, we fought crowds of werewolves, dragons, creatures, fought in different worlds. This is a sign of self-learning combat techniques in a dream. The most interesting thing is when I remembered this, I had been fighting for more than a year.

There are many different entities and take on a different form. Here you can talk a lot and it's pointless. The most important thing to remember is that a person is one of the most powerful beings and can do a lot if there is a clear intention, confidence like a fanatic. There will be fear, they will use it. Here is my opinion and the practice that I did. It may be a little chaotic, but as it is, there are a lot of thoughts.

PS did not finish the previous comment: if the illusion asks a question, she will answer with nonsense and will deal with her program. This can still distinguish essence from illusion.

Hello dear author. You're right. Apparently this is a provocation for energy. Today I dreamed of a wasp. Not the same as everything before. I don't want to bother you. But I'll tell you all the same, maybe someone will benefit from the experience. It was an ordinary dream. I decided to arrange a mega-battle, I think let them unwind a little. Then I think I’ll check how many of my illusions exist. I learned this from Castaneda where Don Juan said that in a dream you need to clearly and clearly pronounce one phrase "" I want to see "". This is necessary so that everything that is not real is lost. What he meant by real I did not understand. Well, according to him, this is supposedly something that radiates energy. Lyrical digression. When you say these words at first it can throw out and
there may be unpleasant vibrations, but this is at the beginning. Then everything that is not real will simply disappear. I spoke a sentence. And everything disappeared. Only a few buildings and emptiness remained. I decided to see what kind of buildings. And went to them. I saw a man talking on the phone and decided to aggro him. I knew he was an entity. But he didn't get angry. And I joked with him, but he pretended that I was not there. I'm sick of i-i went farther. I went into the building and there was a cinema. And a bunch of kids. They stare at me and I at them. And behind such comes the ambal guard. I'm just like that, you don't need to beat me. I love simple jokes. And he put me in a chair. And darkness came. I-I woke up in the room. I tried to wake up. But it's useless. And he was in his face and screaming. I felt pain but dulled, that is, it was a dream. For those who come across a similar situation. Most importantly, don't panic and don't panic. You were invited to your house (or rather a trap for you), no one will touch you. There will only be attempts to color their lives. And they will definitely invite you to their place. You don't have to agree. You can wander a little and then you will be thrown out. Let's continue. I went to the small window. And I saw a huge ziggurat on its top and I sat in the room. They were all downstairs. And they shouted that I would jump to them. I don't like height. The view, of course, was amazing. Jungle around. Houses and butterflies even muddied a huge lizard. I started climbing down the rocks. But they did not like it, they threw me down. I thought I would fall when I flew. They gave me wings. Not bad. I went down to earth. And they began to say that it is very beautiful here. I said I want to check everything here. They're kind of good. They didn't seem to understand what I was going to do. I yelled ""I want to see"" loudly. And all those beauties are gone. Only a few stone houses and trees remained. Everything else has disappeared. It was an illusion. They began to scream in horror because I dispelled their idea. I asked why this deception? They only argued among themselves and shouted. I also started arguing with them, accusing them of cheating, and they threw me out. Apparently they didn't like it. Why am I? Moreover, all those beauties and other planets are seen by many of those that are in wasps, this is an illusion. Well, in fact, all dreams are an illusion, I mean exactly about such trips. Don't believe it. This is exactly what Don Juan mentioned in Castaneda's books. Astral or OS, it doesn't matter, it's easy to deceive yourself in it. Thank you dear author for your advice. You're right. It is restraint important factor. It will be difficult for unstable personalities. As for energy, I have nothing to worry about, I have enough of it. Apparently, this is why these climb.

Hello! I was in a lucid dream, it’s a pity not for long, about 2 minutes, and I also managed to go into the astral plane once, if it was him, of course, well, it certainly wasn’t OS. When there was OS, it's like a vivid dream and self-understanding, the tactile feeling works, probably works because you want it yourself. And the exit from the body or the astral plane (I don’t know if there is a difference between the WTO and the astral plane), and so, they are essentially different things. I'll tell you from my experience how it all happened. I had insomnia for a couple of days, it’s impossible to say that I didn’t sleep at all, but I slept very badly, and so on the third day I’m lying like this, trying to sleep .... I looked at the clock, it was 4 in the morning, and after 2 hours I had to go to work, from such a thought made it even more difficult to fall asleep =) ... in general, after a certain time, I began to fall into bed for no reason .... slowly and for a long time, like in an endless featherbed or something ... I don’t know how else to describe, I felt that someone then I lay down next to me, my eyes were closed, but with a feeling I felt that there was no hostility, it was warm. in short, I was tired of falling through and I decided to get up, from one thought I ended up in the middle of the room, it was dark at that time of day, but I stood in a bright yellow light that did not blind my eyes, I could look at 360 degrees and see everywhere I think (though I can only look in within your room). I didn’t have an idea that I needed to fly somewhere or something, my emotions went wild, it doesn’t look like anything, the OS can’t be compared, I would even say that there’s nothing like that nearby .... and I saw that creature that was next to me, with human growth, a man woven from light with bright eyes, looked friendly at me, who it was I don’t know, and I was more interested in the fact of what had happened at that moment .... then I looked at myself lying down and me in for a second it was sucked into my body .... I jumped up already physically, and could no longer think about sleep ... all the way to work, I thought about what had happened.

Hello everyone. I’ll tell you about my situation. That year I had a strong immersion from fatigue, I fell deeply asleep right away, I see that I’m standing in the middle of the room, I see how I’m lying next to my husband (it really happened) but I seem to be from the outside I see the bed is the same, our curtains weigh, but the rest that surrounded us seemed to be in some kind of laboratory some kind of terrible walls, there are no doors anywhere, just entrances and exits, I seem to be floating around the room, I didn’t like that the room was all black, the next thing with me this quiet horror happened over our bed, the devil appeared red and burns like fire jumps and looks at our bed where we lie and wants to kill or strangle us, in general, after that his gaze falls on me and I start to tremble and run away from him as if I’m flying too and I fly out of the room like a gap there, I stand over some sort of iron bridge passage of the laboratory and I don’t know where to go around the wall and downstairs like the first floor, but it’s not known what, in general, he approached me and you know what oh? suddenly his student appeared in the form of a man and hooked me to a chair on some chains of my arms and legs like in a horror movie and began to pull out some kind of iron surgical tongs and something else, at that moment I understand that we are sleeping in the room and I need to save us there, in short, I began to scream strongly in this chair from this scream, and I woke up. day this vision does not give me rest, I always remember it, it was like in real life, I felt everything

Hello, I am interested in one question that I wanted to know for a long time, but did not know where to ask it.

So, I slept in a room, in complete darkness alone. The room is small, communal. I didn’t seem to feel anything, there were no dreams, no sensations, I just remember images.

And now I suddenly wake up, immediately there is a wild rumble in my head, like in horror, as if someone has penetrated my head and is pressing from the inside. I don’t know how, but I felt someone’s presence to the right of me, as if someone was standing and waiting for me to move and it would abruptly rush towards me, that rumble, I somehow felt that it was connected with it. Still, being in the hostel, I did not understand that I was there, as if I was lying at home on the couch, in the same position as falling asleep.
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